Nová verzia portálu VIVO.sk
Pár rokov dozadu som známemu požičal svoje nové auto. Nutne potreboval prepraviť bedničky s ovocím a jeho stará Škodovka už na túto prácu nestačila. Známy, starší to pán, s radosťou prevzal kľúče a spokojne si odfrčal. Neprešla ani pol hodina a dvíham si telefón k uchu. Zo sluchátka sa ozve séria nadávok, nervózny a nahnevaný hlas mi oznámi, že si mám po tú kraksňu prísť. Vraj to nevie ani cúvať a páku už skoro ohol, čo sa snažil zaradiť spiatočku. S jemným pobavením v hlase som známemu vysvetlil, že tento model auta vyžaduje aby sa páka mierne zatlačila smerom dole a až potom je možné spiatočku zaradiť.
Nové VIVO zazrelo svetlo sveta ani nie pred 48 hodinami a už sa nám ozývajú ľudia, podobní môjmu známemu, ktorí sa boja zmeny. Skôr ako vyskúšajú čo má nové VIVO pod kapotou, koľko má koní a aké funkcie ponúka, budú radšej mrhať naším časom a písať vulgárne emaily.
Život je plný zmien - dobrých i zlých. Väčšina členov sa zhodla, že nové VIVO prináša pozitívne zmeny. Lenže na to aby ich človek videl, musí chytiť ponúkané nástroje do ruky a naučiť sa ich používať, vyskúšať si ich a prispôsobiť si ich tak, aby čo najlepšie slúžili jemu. Pračlovek to vedel - zobral kameň a spravil si z neho nástroj. Ja verím, že moderný človek nestratil tento dar vynaliezavosti a vezme VIVO do ruky a naučí sa ho čo najlepšie používať vo svoj prospech.
Kde sú funkcie zo starého VIVA?
Všetko čo bolo v starom VIVE je stále aj v novom, aj keď možno v inej podobne. Staré VIVO ti umožnilo pridať zopár fotografií týždenne, bodovať ich a vyjadriť sa k nim. Tým sa jeho funkčnosť končila. Nové VIVO ti umožňuje to isté a mnoho viac. Spravili sme ho tak, aby čo najlepšie slúžilo každému fotografovi - nakoniec aj my sme fotografi.
Chceš VIVO používať ako fotobanku a nezaujímajú ťa hodnotenia a názory iných? Nech sa páči. Nahraj si svoje fotogafie na VIVO, taguj si ich, trieď si ich, ukazuj ich rodine a priateľom a nikto ti nebude nadávať, že pridávaš braky a máš samé prepaly v záberoch.
Zaujímajú ťa názory iných na tvoje práce a chceš s ostatnými diskutovať o fotografiách? Potom je tu pre teba fotokritika. Raz za 48 hodín môžeš žiadať o kritiku jednej, rozumne vybranej, fotografie a členovia ti budú dávať body a písať názory.
Nemáš fotoaparát a páčia sa ti fotografie? Nevadí. Prezeraj si práce iných, zatrieďuj ich do položiek, odporúčaj ich a vyjadri sa k nim.
Týmto sa však funkčnosť nového VIVO ani z ďaleka nekončí. Roky sa ľudia sťažovali na určité obmedzenia starého VIVA. Preto sme pre vás pripravili skupiny a akcie, kde si členovia môžu kraľovať sami sebe. Nezaujímajú ťa krajinky a makrá púpavy ti už lezú krkom? Vytvor si svoju skupinu a púšťaj do nej len ľudí s rovnakými záujmami, pridávajte si fotografie podľa vášho gusta a vytvorte si svoj mikro svet, do ktorého vám nikto nebude strkať nos.
Je nové VIVO perfektné?
Ani z ďaleka. Neustále ho opravujeme a dorábame do neho veci. Niektoré funkcie nie sú ešte spustené, iné sa len chystajú - VIVO sa neustále mení. Naším cieľom je, aby VIVO obsahovalo dokonalú zmesku nástrojov, ktoré dokáže oceniť každý nadšenec fotografie. Ak ti niečo na VIVE chýba, daj nám o tom vedieť. Konštruktívnu kritiku a nápady si radi vypočujeme.
A čo môj známy?
Nakoniec ma uprosil aby som mu to auto predal. Na výkonný AWD, posilňovač riadenia, vysoký podvozok a hlavne komfort za volantom jeho Škodovka nemala. Preto verím, že ak ťa fotografia zaujíma, naučíš sa VIVO a funkcie, ktoré ti ponúka, plnohodnotne využívať. Netreba hneď zavrhovať to čo je nové o odlišné.
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vrana > nesuhlasim, je to ako keby si presadol z felicie do kokpitu boeingu... chvilu frfles a potom to radsej vzdas... nie vsetci su totiz nadseni zo stoviek "features"
Osobne ma nezaujima vytvaranie roznych komunit, tagovanie fotiek bude napomocne akurat tak zlodejom... dizajn som ocakaval este jednoduchsi ako bol, namiesto neho je tu kopec "bizuterie" - veci, ktore odputavaju pozornost a to podstatne - fotky a nazory na ne su v ustrani...
Vivo bola moja domovska stranka niekolko rokov, v podstate nepretrzite som sledoval vsetko co sa tu dialo, ale myslim ze na nove vivo si asi nezvyknem :(
Autorom sa chcem podakovat, podaril sa im kopec dobrej roboty a maju zivotaschopny projekt, ktory zmenil zivoty mnohych ludi... Vdaka.
Nájde sa tu samozrejme ešte zopár nedostatkov, ktoré sa verím v krátkej dobe utrasú a dajú na správne miesto :-)
Držím palec aby sa stalo VIVO najlepším fotografickým portálom v EU :-)))D
Prave naopak, stare vivo bolo preto dobre, ze ho zvladol aj ten obycajny jednoduchy clovek, ktory na to nepotreboval dvojdnove skolenie... Preto sa tu vytvorila taka silna komunita ludi (rozneho veku, skusenosti, vzdelania, etc!!)
Btw, Juraj, ak si myslis ze ty si ten spravne vyspely na komunikaciu na internete, tak si v prvom rade vypni caps lock... A mozes sa prilezitostne zamysliet aj nad svojou gramatikou ;-)
zdielam nazor ktory je v tomto clanku.
Nove vivo je cesta vpred. Nove vivo nasadilo latku o kus vyssie co sa tyka urovne fotoportalov. Myslim, ze momentalne svojou strukturou a spracovanim je to najlepsi fotoportal, ktory som kedy navstivil.
necitim sa tu nicim obmedzeny a mam volbu sobodneho vyberu kde a kedy budem co publikovat, kde a kedy sa skym budem bavit, a kde a kedy budem na co reagovat a koho necham reagovat na moje aktivity.
takze vdaka.
K ostatnemu sa nedokazem vyjadrit z dvoch dovodov, 1) ak potrebujes hodiny studovat ako sa pridava a pozera fotografia, tak ti pomoct teda naozaj neviem, lebo tento proces sa nijako nezmenil 2) demokracia a kapitalizmus nam priniesli jednu velmi dolezitu slobodu - slobodu vyberu. Ak sa ti nepaci co vidis a uplne ti to sklbe kutikom na ustach, preco mrhas svojim casom a nenajdes si nieco co vyhovuje tebe...
Staré vivo bolo také "domácke", útulné, ako napríklad kaviarnička do ktorej chodíš každý deň a vieš, že tam pri stole bude sedieť Jožo, tam Jano a čašníčke Janke povieš "ako obyčajne" a vie čo ti má doniesť, odskočíš si, necháš stoličku odsunutú od stola, vrátiš sa a zasunieš ju naspäť so sebou, ale nové vivo je ako McDonald, alebo nejaký automat, tiež vie, čo chceš, ale keď to naťukáš na automate, ale ako sa parí z kávy pri zalievaní nevidíš, odskočíš si a keď sa vrátiš, stôl máš uprataný a nedopitá káva je fuč :-(
My ti stolicku nebereme. Mas ju sale tam, ale vedla nej mas aj gauc kde si mozes s priatelmi na tu kavu sadnut a ked si ju tam rozlejes, bude tam rolziata kym si ju sam neupraces.
jedine sklamanie pre mna je :FOTOBANKA; to som teda netusila ze to bude takto vlastne sem moze uz konecne aj moj ocino ( stale po tom tuzil rozdavat body pod fotky, hoci sa do toho vobec nerozumie) no a tak no.. inak nemam problem s nicim teda...
Mam naozaj radost z noveho designu, vazne...
No nik ,,z vonka,, ma tu nenasiel, a to medzi tymi co ma tu hladali su aj niesu LAMY, no nenasiel ma nikto, nikto nenasiel to ,,jednoznacne,, tlacitko hladaj...
Ked som im to doma ukazal tak to bolo ako keby si nasiel ameriku... Ked som odysiel zrazu telefonat... ,,A kde najdem tvoje fotky?,,
Ja teda neviem,
Chcel som nové vivo :-)
ale ked sme sa z ramionom rozpravali o novom, tak som nemyslel ze zmenite FILOZOFIU, neviem - nevidite to?
VIVO je zrazu monstrum narocne na cas a energiu...
FOTKA je uplne vedlajsi produkt...
Nema tu podla mna svoje stabilne a dostojne miesto
stravil som tu viac ako dost casu na to aby som nasiel niekde logiku a filozofiu, no nenachadzam tu jednoznacnost ze tomuto portalu ide o FOTKU...
(prosim neberte tieto vety odo mna, ako od cloveka ktory nevie o com hovori, pozitivna kritika je jednoznacna, no negativna posuva dalej a ludia sa nepytaju ako dalej ked su ,,hore,, ale ked idu smerom nadol...)
Ludia tu urcite zostanu, nemaju kam inam ist, no pokial tu ani po case nenajdu to co hladaju - ochladnu zo zaujmu, nemusia hned odyst ale comu pripisujete tie komentare o komplikovanosti?
myslite ze povodny uzivatelia su hlupi a lenivy?
Nechcem poucat ale pokial ste s tym ratali ze ludia budu ,,frflat,, tak sa tomu dalo predist tym ze informujete o pripravovanej platforme na ktorej to bude bezat, spomenut ze bude komplikovanejsie a dopredu oboznamit s principmi...
Tak ako to robil globtel ked prechadzal na orange
ako to robil eurotel - t-mobile
ako to robil Credit Suisse - Winterthur a nasledne AXA
citlivejsie komunikovat s uzivatelom ,,zakaznikom - klientom,,
ANO - je mozne zaujat postoj
NEPACI SA? - TAM SU DVERE!!!
No ak takto budete zastavat predlozene zmeny tak davate len na vyber ANO / NIE
kazdy si vybere...
Ale este nakoniec by som rad pozdvihol design a zladenost farieb na tejto stranke
moja frajerka ma tu nasla bez problemov ;)
Reefe neivem v podstate s tebou nesuhlasim ... nechce sa mi to rozpisovat ... globtel alebo orange je platena firma btw....
ale vyuzivaju nieco comu sa hovori - komunikacia s klientom
- a o tom to casto je... :-)
- SORRY ak sa musim nutit nieco nasilu pochopit ked to chcem vyuzivat!
Chcem vyuzivat nove vivo ale nechcem aby ma ovladalo!
Tebe sa nestalo ze si nevedela co a od koho si pozeras? a kam to vlastne patri, kde to vlastne je a tak?
vsak toto nieje USER FRIENDLY prostredie!
VIVO zatial nema zakaznikov, vivo nema ani klientov, VIVO ma kopec hladnych deti. Dovol aby som ti vysvetlil preco je nefer porovnavat nas s Orange. Tebe Orange fakturuje kazdy mesiac sluzby, ty im za tie sluzby platis a tym padom sa aj niecoho dozadujes - stare dobre QUID PRO QUO. Orange disponuje kvantom volneho kapitalu a tak si moze dovolit robit PR kampane a tlacit svoju znacku ludom tak hlboko do riti az mas jazyk oranzovy. VIVO vsak za jeho 4 roky posobenia doslova zozralo cez pol miliona korun a neprinieslo nam nic. Nemusis byt ekonom aby si pochopil aky nevyhodny obchodny tah je mat takyto portal. Pytas sa ako je mozne, ze taka obycajna stranka spotrebuje tak vela? 100 tisic kazdy rok za prenajom racku a konektivitu, cez 180 tisic za hardver, niekolko desiatok tisic za sietovy hardver a to nevravim o zhorenych veciach, ktore by nam v idealnom svete mal preplatit DialTelekom. Cize ja som za 4 roky dal na charitu pol melona a spat som dostal nadavky a kopance od mojich hladnych deti. Za to obdobie tam boli 2 (slovom DVE) reklamy. Kedze to nie je tajnost, zisk na nich bol 25 tisic korun - 1/4 roka prenajmu racku a konektivity. Preco nie viac reklamy? Mne sa reklama hnusi, nechodim na stranky kde reklama je a branim sa tomu aby bola na mojich. Preco to vsetko financujem? Dobra otazka. Bavi ma to. Ja som vsak v prvom rade kapitalista az potom filantrop a preto termin "Navrat na Zisku" je prve co mam na mysli - ERGO NOVE VIVO.
Rozjasnuje sa ti? Dufam, ze ano. USER FRIENDLY - par rokov som sa zivil ako usability specialist - nosis drevo do hory. Pravda vsak je, ze v skutocnosti nik nevie co naozaj user friendly je - vid Windows VISTA fiasko a ver mi, oni dali miliony na rozne studie toho systemu. Stovky akademikov rocne publikuju kvantum papierov na tuto temu, nejake najdes aj odo mna, ale vsetko je to len vystrel do luftu, lebo ako sa meni doba, meni sa aj tento pojem. Konzola, taky nenavideny nastroj, je podla mna viac USER FRIENDLY ako cely Windows. Tak isto ako ja pri pohlade na makro pupavy utekam hned na zachod, niekto si toto makro da do pozadia na svojej ploche. USER FRIENDLY - otrasne subjektivny pohlad na vec. Kedze nie som vcerajsi, VIVO bolo posunute na testovanie ludom, ktory ho nikdy predtym nepouzivali a na zaklade ich odporucani boli na nom prevedene zmeny a ty ho vidis uz po tych zmenach. Ty vsak mas to co sa v brandzi vola BIAS. Porovnavas to co bolo s tym co vidis teraz. A koli tomu musis na zvladnutie zakladnych operacii vyvinut viac namahy, lebo tvoja mysel bojuje s novymi skutocnostami. A ked tu uz placame tuto bezvyznamnu anglicku terminologiu, hodim sem este jednu - LEARNING CURVE. Pride cas ked tak ako Descartes, budes osvieteny a v novom VIVE sa budes vediet navigovat aj so zavretymi ocami.
Taktiez neberies (a toto plati pre vsetkych) do uvahy to, ze my na VIVE v kuse robime. Ramion doslova "grcia" PHP kod a ja som si v kancli z plechoviek RedBull-u postavil Cheopsovu pyramidu. A to vsetko preto aby sme vyhoveli nasim detom. Cize reefe, raz mozno pride cas ked, tak ako Orange, ti pred zmenou poslem domov Milku cokoladu s napisom "Priprav sa na sladke prekvapenie." Teraz je vsak realita kus krutejsia a my musime robit veci tak aby sme dosiahli urcite momentum a mohli prestat na chvilu bicyklovat.
Moj nazor je, ze urcite ubudne komentov...ale mozno sa mylim. Necham sa prekvapit.
Co sa tyka pridavania fotiek...bolo tu moratorium a nie som nosic nedovareneho obeda, takze osobny pristup prevladne a ja si vlozim fotecku, podla uz navyknuteho casoveho obdobia.
Uz som pisal, ze zmizli aj clanky, ktore som sem prekladal...viem ze nie nalezito jazykovo upravene (nemam doktorat z anglictiny)...ale hadam niekoho donutili o fotke rozmyslat inym smerom. Cize...takto mi odpadne tiez kus prace;)
Takze...vela zdaru nove VIVO :)
Jaro
len ta filozofia, len ta filozofia mi nejak...
- zvykam si a zvyknem si...
tesil som sa nove Vivo..fakt..uz som sa nevedel dockat dna ,ked sa zmeni mnoho veci.dizajnom pocnuc a sposobom bodovania konciac..i stalo sa..vsetko je nadupane,vsetko je take ,aby to pritiahlo co najviac ludi..ale zmena nastala tak ,ze sice sedim v nadupanom aute,ale zakryli ste mi celne sklo plachtou...za spolujazdcov mi nukate ludi,co nerozumeju soferovaniu,ale maju moznost a povolenie mi do toho rozpravat..maju komentovat moju jazdu..
poviem to tak,,Vivo bolo jedinecne v tom ,ze malo atmmosferu,ktoru nam zavideli ludia siroko daleko...preto sem chodievalo kopec ludi,ktori mali sice domovsku stajnu sice inde ,ale u nas sa vzdy dobre citili..na Slovensku nie je zase az tolko ludi,cop fotia,co sa venuju fotke..sme obmedzeny populaciou a jazykom..takze necakam taky masivny prilev ludi,nerozbehne sa to nejako sialene a ak ja ano ,tak vsetko na ukor kvality...vsimnite si,kolko fotiek bolo pridanych za poslednych par hodin,,skoro nic..oproti staremu Vivu,kde to len tak frcalo...skoro nic..na starom Vive som mal poicit,ze v hociktoru dennu ci nocnu hodinu sem pridem,tak som tu doma,..ze mozem pisat a hodnotit ..ze to Vivo malo oci a usi..vstupoval som do tohto sveta ,tesil som sa a tazko sa mi z tej rieky vystupovalo..mozno napis..VIVO,,Nikdy nie si sam..ten by to vystihoval..bol to zivy organizmus..aj ked tam boli hadky ,trenice,ale nasiel som tam hlavne kopec priatelov a ludi,co rozumeju fotke,a aj ked nerozumeli,tak sa aspon snazili porozumiet,,bol to taky obrovsky vir,co ma chytil a podmanil si ma..bol to vzacny dar tejto stranky.v tom bola jedinecnost tohto portalu..teraz mam pocit,ze som oslepol a ohluchol..ze som zavrety do miestnosti so styrmi stenami a pozeram sa okolo seba na tie steny,kde sice mam kopec ovladacov a gombikov,ale som tam sam..
co sa tyka finanncovania ..ano,je to skvele ,ze ste to robili,bez toho by to nebolo mozne..vdaka,,ale padla niekedy otazka,ci by ludia chceli platit?spominal si Davidus,ze za styri roky to bolo okolo pol miliona korun..padla niekdy otazka,ze ci by ludia chcel;i prispievat na Vivo>na jeho chod?neviem kolko,,dajme tomu dvesto korun rocne..patsto..je to menej ako vascina z nas prepije za vecer ,ked sa rozsupne..clenske raz do rokoa alebo pri vstupe..a mozno by to bolo vyriesene..odradilo by to ludi,co sa sem dosli len tak spacirovat..mozano ajk fakenicky by neboli v takom mnozstve..a ked ratam,tak by to pokrylo naklady aj na spolocne pitie by este ostalo..by sa to vyselektovalo na ludi,co maju skutocny zaujem o fotku a verim ,ze vacsina ludi by ostala..
zatial tolkoto..idem si to skladat dalej.,.:}diky za porozumenie..
za poslednych par hodin som sa venoval skumaniu/preluskavaniu VIVA. Precital som si rozne nazory a rozhodol som sa aj ja svojou troskou prispiet. Chcem zdoraznit, ze je to len a len moj nazor, s ktorym nemusite suhlasit.
1. Technicky pohlad:
Urcite je to pokrok, a velky, smerom dopredu. Plne chapem, ze funkcionality, ktore tato verzia VIVA ponuka, nie su 100% funkcne. Az ostra prevadzka dokaze odhalit a vychytat mnohe, ci uz vacsie alebo mensie chybicky, ktore od niektorych z Vas uz boli vyslovene/spomenute. Mna okrem inych funkcionalit zaujala funkcionalita tzv. blokovanie. Pre mna je to uplne zbytocna funkcionalita. Neviem, ci si tvorcovia zobrali za vzor FA, ale ta zatial nefunguje a som rad ze nefunguje, bodaj by vobec nefungovala. S kolegom som si ju pretestoval, ako pri pridavani komentarov pod fotku, tak aj v internej poste. Pri uploadovani obrazkov dochadza k chybovym hlaskam aj ked vyskoci finalna sprava o uspesnom uploadovani. Vcera som si to odskusal na viackrat s tym, ze som si aj fotku zmazal a znovu ju nahral (nepouzivam IE) a... ...a zistil som aj, ze chyba informacia o max. rozmeroch pri vkladani fotiek a to bez deformacie. Ta sa da najst v napovede, ale mohla by byt dostupna priamo pri vkladani. Dalej je to vynutena povinnost tagovania, co sa mne osobne vobec nepaci. Keby to bolo volitelne, budiz, ale povinne, tak to mi nevonia a... ...a mohol by som pokracovat.
2. Pocit
Mam pocit, ze podstata kludneho a nicim neruseneho prezerania fotiek a ich komentovania uplne zanika. Su tu rozne fotosekcie, clovek nevie, podla coho sa ma riadit. Najprirodzenejsie je snad podla casu vlozenia, tak ako to je na vsetkych fotogaleriach a ako to bolo aj tu predtym... ...dalej neobmedzena moznost vkladania fotiek u mna vyvolava nedobry pocit, ze vkladajuci budu sem vkladat cokolvek, bez rozmyslu, i ked chapem, ze tie fotky nebudu podliehat bodovej fotokritike... ...nedobry pocit mam aj z toho, ze fotka, ktoru chcem, aby bola vo fotokritike, musi by bodovana. Ked nie je vo fotokritike, velmi rychlo zapadne. Opat sa to teda zvrhne, napriek pekne opisanej napovede, ze na co maju sluzit 6-ky a 7-ky. Negativne na mna vplyva aj mnozstvo "rusivych" prvkov na stranke/podstrankach:
"Namixovane specialne pre Teba" - Na zaklade akych kriterii sa mi nieco nanucuje, aby som si pozrel tu ktoru fotku?
"Siete", "Moji priatela", "Blokovanie", "Vzajomni priatelia" "Skupiny" a co ja viem co este...
...proste pocitovo to vnimam negativne.
Chcem vidiet fotky, chcem vkladat fotky a chcem sa k nim vyjadrovat a chcem, aby sa ini vyjadrovali zasa k mojim fotkam...
No, mam toho viac, ale hadam staci
člověk jen vytáhne paty z baráku, tak mu hned rozházejí hračky!!! ... Co je to tady na straně za fotky? Kde mám svojí červenou lištu? Kurňa a sebrali mi fórum... :))))
Já tleskám... :))) ještě chvilku se sice asi budu potácet kvůli nové ergonomii ovládání, chvilku budu tápat než si vezmu novou VIVO filozofii za svou, ale nebude to nijak hrozný proces.
VIVO se vyvíjí a to znamená, že neumírá. Naopak, chytá další dech a pádí kupředu. Gratuluji a přeji hodně spokojených fotografů a mnoho krásných fotek.
P.S: To fórum, případně online chat pod fotkama bych docela bral :)))
P.P.S: A propo, je chybka v helpu, v popisu nahrávání fotografií je uvedeno, že si jich mohu nahrát kolik chci, ale jen dvě dát jednou deně ke kritice... asi by to mělo být obráceně -> že jednu za dva dny...
PS: Přikláním se k názoru, že staré Vivo mělo své mouchy, ale rozhodně působilo přátelštěji. Mělo prostě svého osobitého ducha, který se teď někam vytratil a je to rozhodně škoda!!!
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